“You can’t live or die every day thinking about redemption,” a self-reflective Eliot Spitzer told Big Think in 2010. “You have to move forward and try to do things that are useful and worthwhile and learn.”

One of the first stops on the former New York governor’s redemption trail was Big Think’s studio, and we had the opportunity to ask him this question two years after he was forced to resign from public office:

What does it take to redeem oneself in public or private life?

Spitzer told Big Think he had “no illusion that I can ever get this piece of my life to fade significantly to the background…All you can do is step back and say, ‘Okay, move forward and try to continue to do something useful.'” After five years, Spitzer has evidently deemed himself to be useful in public service again, announcing he will be running for the position of New York City’s comptroller. 

“I’m hopeful there will be forgiveness, I am asking for it,” Spitzer told The New York Times.e But there is a difference between seeking redemption and being useful, as Spitzer explained in his interview with Big Think below. 

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